He tells us how he left football for music, and about his first tracks: "really bad, and the worst part is I'd listen to them and think: this is a bomb". Also how he met Marco Balcázar: he brought him a USB at Casa Cobra, Marco played it, and it sounded terrible because it had no mix. That same track later became the first of his that Hernán ever played. He also tells us about the three binders holding some 300 CDs his uncle left him — all of Global Underground, all of Renaissance, catalogued with BPM and runtime — and then we go full nerd mode: Ableton, the Sampler for ambiences, Diva, Repro and FabFilter. All software, no hardware. His philosophy comes through a football analogy: less is more, just as playing simple is the hardest thing in football. The strongest part of the conversation is what he says about his own generation: that what holds them back is the anxiety of wanting to be in the big leagues from their very first track. He also explains why he doesn't use AI, and what the Mexican scene is missing to become what Argentina's already is.